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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35171</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazi behaving Estonians.</description>
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		<title>By: mina</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35166</link>
		<dc:creator>mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 05:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Estonia itself was far from well behaved during World War II.&quot;

Can you please explain that? First of all there was no &quot;Estonia during WWII&quot;. First it was occupied by Russians then Germans. When Germans left, the swastika was tored off and Estoninian flag put up. But after 3 days came liberatord and they replaced it with the red flag.

Now can you please explain me how badly estonia behaved? And what Estonia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Estonia itself was far from well behaved during World War II.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you please explain that? First of all there was no &#8220;Estonia during WWII&#8221;. First it was occupied by Russians then Germans. When Germans left, the swastika was tored off and Estoninian flag put up. But after 3 days came liberatord and they replaced it with the red flag.</p>
<p>Now can you please explain me how badly estonia behaved? And what Estonia?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Waller</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35164</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Waller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was nothing noble about the way that statue was taken down and shipped away.  The shame is with the Estonian government.  Not respecting the desires of a large portion of the population can backfire.  There was no need for the Estonian government to act in the manner it chose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was nothing noble about the way that statue was taken down and shipped away.  The shame is with the Estonian government.  Not respecting the desires of a large portion of the population can backfire.  There was no need for the Estonian government to act in the manner it chose.</p>
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		<title>By: Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35163</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kolya, that link doesn&#039;t pick up the whole commentary.

Russia can&#039;t be blamed for the Estonian government&#039;s politically touching move.  

Estonia itself was far from well behaved during World War II.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kolya, that link doesn&#8217;t pick up the whole commentary.</p>
<p>Russia can&#8217;t be blamed for the Estonian government&#8217;s politically touching move.  </p>
<p>Estonia itself was far from well behaved during World War II.</p>
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		<title>By: A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; News Brief, Planet Unicorn Heyyy Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35162</link>
		<dc:creator>A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; News Brief, Planet Unicorn Heyyy Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] addition, the rail line between Estonia and Russia, on which travels mucho oil shipments, has been mysteriously closed. European officials were naturally protesting in strong language, but if you think this will prompt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kolya</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35157</link>
		<dc:creator>Kolya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good Moscow Times editorial (in English):

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/05/02/005.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good Moscow Times editorial (in English):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/05/02/005.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/05/02/005.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kolya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, my last comment since everyone&#039;s positions seem so entrenched. One thing to remember is that the Estonians did not destroy the monument. The moved it and they actually did it quite well. In any event, I think it&#039;s a bit too much to expect for Estonians to view the Red Army as a liberating force. I don&#039;t agree with everything in Mina&#039;s comment, but as Peteris said, she captures the essence of Estonia&#039;s rightful grievance. 

Russia simply has to accept that because of what happened in the past, many of Russia&#039;s immediate neighbors will feel great distrust and dislike toward her for years to come. But given time things may change. It may take two or more generations, but it&#039;s possible. Look at France and Germany. 

To Michael Averko--there are several accounts in the media about what the Estonian diplomats endured in Moscow. For example, this is an excerpt from the International Herald Tribune:

&quot;The persistent protest has disrupted 
the embassy&#039;s operation and prompted 
Estonia to send spouses and children 
of diplomats home. A flag was ripped 
off the embassy grounds and Kaljurand 
[the Ambassador] said stones were 
thrown at the building. On Wednesday, 
Kaljurand was mobbed by dozens of 
activists from Nashi and other groups 
who stormed into a building where she 
was to give a news conference.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, my last comment since everyone&#8217;s positions seem so entrenched. One thing to remember is that the Estonians did not destroy the monument. The moved it and they actually did it quite well. In any event, I think it&#8217;s a bit too much to expect for Estonians to view the Red Army as a liberating force. I don&#8217;t agree with everything in Mina&#8217;s comment, but as Peteris said, she captures the essence of Estonia&#8217;s rightful grievance. </p>
<p>Russia simply has to accept that because of what happened in the past, many of Russia&#8217;s immediate neighbors will feel great distrust and dislike toward her for years to come. But given time things may change. It may take two or more generations, but it&#8217;s possible. Look at France and Germany. </p>
<p>To Michael Averko&#8211;there are several accounts in the media about what the Estonian diplomats endured in Moscow. For example, this is an excerpt from the International Herald Tribune:</p>
<p>&#8220;The persistent protest has disrupted<br />
the embassy&#8217;s operation and prompted<br />
Estonia to send spouses and children<br />
of diplomats home. A flag was ripped<br />
off the embassy grounds and Kaljurand<br />
[the Ambassador] said stones were<br />
thrown at the building. On Wednesday,<br />
Kaljurand was mobbed by dozens of<br />
activists from Nashi and other groups<br />
who stormed into a building where she<br />
was to give a news conference.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Potato Head</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Potato Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else wonder if &quot;Michael&quot; is actually an Estonian agent provocateur, trying to make Russia look bad by writing wacked-out over-the-top anti-Estonian posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else wonder if &#8220;Michael&#8221; is actually an Estonian agent provocateur, trying to make Russia look bad by writing wacked-out over-the-top anti-Estonian posts?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mina and Peteris: Do you want to say that Simon Wiesenthal Center is telling lie that Estonian authorities protect Estonian Holocaust war criminals from trial? Don&#039;t you want to write them your opinion? I promise to send you presents to jil next 5 years if you will have enough courage to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mina and Peteris: Do you want to say that Simon Wiesenthal Center is telling lie that Estonian authorities protect Estonian Holocaust war criminals from trial? Don&#8217;t you want to write them your opinion? I promise to send you presents to jil next 5 years if you will have enough courage to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35152</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 16:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you denying the facts provided by Simon Wiesenthal Center? Maybe you will call them to tell they are telling lie that Estonia clears Estonian Holocaust criminals today? If you will have enough courage to do this, please let me know - I will send you presents in jail. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you denying the facts provided by Simon Wiesenthal Center? Maybe you will call them to tell they are telling lie that Estonia clears Estonian Holocaust criminals today? If you will have enough courage to do this, please let me know &#8211; I will send you presents in jail. <img src='http://www.siberianlight.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pēteris Cedriņš</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pēteris Cedriņš</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mina is perfectly correct -- perfectly because what she writes is quite true and because she condenses it to exactly what ought to matter. If two bandits invade your house, theu both rape you, they fight, and one comes back to rape you for another fifty years -- the last is a &quot;liberator&quot;? Because he fathered a bunch of children upon you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mina is perfectly correct &#8212; perfectly because what she writes is quite true and because she condenses it to exactly what ought to matter. If two bandits invade your house, theu both rape you, they fight, and one comes back to rape you for another fifty years &#8212; the last is a &#8220;liberator&#8221;? Because he fathered a bunch of children upon you?</p>
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		<title>By: mina</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35149</link>
		<dc:creator>mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally and utterly lie - you believe that Russians left any nazi collaborator in Estonia alive? 
And there is no official glorification here. 
If you are talking about the mythological SS statue that Russian media is promoting then know, it was erected by one individual and was removed the next day by government.

The nazi Germany was occupier like soviet Russia. And I repeat there is neither better killer nor occupier. Only soviets managed to murder in 1 year of occupation (1940-41) many times more people than Germans in 3 years. 

The main dissonance in the understanding of history between Russian and Eastern Europe is that eastern Europe still remembers Russia as aggressor with nazi Germany. But Russia desperately tries to hide the fact that he too was aggressor and occupier.
 
If you read the Jewish page closely then you can see that it was Russia who first started to deport and kill poor Estonian Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally and utterly lie &#8211; you believe that Russians left any nazi collaborator in Estonia alive?<br />
And there is no official glorification here.<br />
If you are talking about the mythological SS statue that Russian media is promoting then know, it was erected by one individual and was removed the next day by government.</p>
<p>The nazi Germany was occupier like soviet Russia. And I repeat there is neither better killer nor occupier. Only soviets managed to murder in 1 year of occupation (1940-41) many times more people than Germans in 3 years. </p>
<p>The main dissonance in the understanding of history between Russian and Eastern Europe is that eastern Europe still remembers Russia as aggressor with nazi Germany. But Russia desperately tries to hide the fact that he too was aggressor and occupier.</p>
<p>If you read the Jewish page closely then you can see that it was Russia who first started to deport and kill poor Estonian Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35148</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 13:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there were fascist collaborators almost everywhere. But only Estonia protects estonian Nazi war criminals from trial and officially glorifies them TODAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there were fascist collaborators almost everywhere. But only Estonia protects estonian Nazi war criminals from trial and officially glorifies them TODAY.</p>
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		<title>By: mina</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35147</link>
		<dc:creator>mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 13:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estonia was occupied at the time so you can not blame &quot;Estonia&quot; for it. Of course there were some collaborators - every nationality had them. The thing about Estonians hating Jews is B.S. - Estonia was first country in the world to give Jews cultural autonomy. If you don&#039;t believe Estonian sources believe Jewish ones: 
 
Quote: &quot;The cultural autonomy of minority peoples is an exceptional phenomenon in European cultural history. Jewish cultural autonomy was of great interest to global Jewish community. The Jewish National Endowment presented the Estonian government with a certificate of gratitude for this achievement.&quot;

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Estonia.html

But again this does not justify Russian atrocities in Estonia. Nor interfering in internal affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estonia was occupied at the time so you can not blame &#8220;Estonia&#8221; for it. Of course there were some collaborators &#8211; every nationality had them. The thing about Estonians hating Jews is B.S. &#8211; Estonia was first country in the world to give Jews cultural autonomy. If you don&#8217;t believe Estonian sources believe Jewish ones: </p>
<p>Quote: &#8220;The cultural autonomy of minority peoples is an exceptional phenomenon in European cultural history. Jewish cultural autonomy was of great interest to global Jewish community. The Jewish National Endowment presented the Estonian government with a certificate of gratitude for this achievement.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Estonia.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Estonia.html</a></p>
<p>But again this does not justify Russian atrocities in Estonia. Nor interfering in internal affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 12:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extreme ideas? Hm. I thought that denying Holocaust is an extreme idea. Okay, let&#039;s continue talking about &quot;western&quot; &quot;democratic&quot; Estonia.

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International Jewish groups say at least 17 unpunished Nazi war criminals may be living in Estonia, but investigators have not brought charges against a single one.

Experts say the reluctance to prosecute accused Nazi war criminals such as Gorshkow reflects Estonia&#039;s lingering ambivalence about the 1941-44 Nazi occupation.
....

&quot;Estonia is one of the countries that are in deep denial,&quot; said Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which hunts down Nazi war criminals. &quot;They think they have nothing to do with this, that the Holocaust didn&#039;t happen there, that they have nothing to regret and nothing to apologize for.&quot;

Experts say Estonia&#039;s lack of political will to prosecute war criminals undermines its attempt to portray itself as a nation that shares Western values. Estonia is scheduled to join the European Union on May 1 and to become a NATO member in the summer.

But Anatol Lieven, an expert on the Baltic states at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, D.C., said Estonia&#039;s reluctance to address its role in the Holocaust &quot;raises the question of how far the whole adoption of the Western persona (is) genuine and deep-rooted&quot; or whether it could &quot;evaporate again after they join the EU and NATO.&quot;

Having experienced the terror of the Soviet occupation, when thousands were deported to Siberia, many Estonians welcomed the arrival of German troops in 1941.

They voluntarily joined Nazi police and army units and helped exterminate not only Estonia&#039;s tiny Jewish community but tens of thousands of Jews brought here from other Eastern European countries to be slaughtered or interned in camps such as Vaivara, Klooga and Lagedi.

Like Gorshkow, many Estonian collaborators were also sent abroad, mostly to Belarus and Poland, and reportedly participated in the murder of Jews there.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/02/15/MNGKV51C571.DTL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extreme ideas? Hm. I thought that denying Holocaust is an extreme idea. Okay, let&#8217;s continue talking about &#8220;western&#8221; &#8220;democratic&#8221; Estonia.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>International Jewish groups say at least 17 unpunished Nazi war criminals may be living in Estonia, but investigators have not brought charges against a single one.</p>
<p>Experts say the reluctance to prosecute accused Nazi war criminals such as Gorshkow reflects Estonia&#8217;s lingering ambivalence about the 1941-44 Nazi occupation.<br />
&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Estonia is one of the countries that are in deep denial,&#8221; said Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which hunts down Nazi war criminals. &#8220;They think they have nothing to do with this, that the Holocaust didn&#8217;t happen there, that they have nothing to regret and nothing to apologize for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Experts say Estonia&#8217;s lack of political will to prosecute war criminals undermines its attempt to portray itself as a nation that shares Western values. Estonia is scheduled to join the European Union on May 1 and to become a NATO member in the summer.</p>
<p>But Anatol Lieven, an expert on the Baltic states at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, D.C., said Estonia&#8217;s reluctance to address its role in the Holocaust &#8220;raises the question of how far the whole adoption of the Western persona (is) genuine and deep-rooted&#8221; or whether it could &#8220;evaporate again after they join the EU and NATO.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having experienced the terror of the Soviet occupation, when thousands were deported to Siberia, many Estonians welcomed the arrival of German troops in 1941.</p>
<p>They voluntarily joined Nazi police and army units and helped exterminate not only Estonia&#8217;s tiny Jewish community but tens of thousands of Jews brought here from other Eastern European countries to be slaughtered or interned in camps such as Vaivara, Klooga and Lagedi.</p>
<p>Like Gorshkow, many Estonian collaborators were also sent abroad, mostly to Belarus and Poland, and reportedly participated in the murder of Jews there.<br />
<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/02/15/MNGKV51C571.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/02/15/MNGKV51C571.DTL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Potato Head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Potato Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 11:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: &quot;Ofcourse the dumbest thing is that the oil transit business in Estonia is all owned by Russians, so Russia is simply hurting their compatriots in stopping rail transport to Estonia. Doh!&quot;

You have hit the nail on the head! That&#039;s the whole point of this maneuver. Read Vilhelm Konnander&#039;s analysis (scroll down to &quot;Estonia: Battle by Bronze Proxy&quot;):

http://vilhelmkonnander.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: &#8220;Ofcourse the dumbest thing is that the oil transit business in Estonia is all owned by Russians, so Russia is simply hurting their compatriots in stopping rail transport to Estonia. Doh!&#8221;</p>
<p>You have hit the nail on the head! That&#8217;s the whole point of this maneuver. Read Vilhelm Konnander&#8217;s analysis (scroll down to &#8220;Estonia: Battle by Bronze Proxy&#8221;):</p>
<p><a href="http://vilhelmkonnander.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://vilhelmkonnander.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pēteris Cedriņš</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pēteris Cedriņš</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 11:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, c&#039;mon, Anthony, buck up -- refried Stalinist claptrap is especially effective if you use phrases like &#039;the Western pharisees&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, c&#8217;mon, Anthony, buck up &#8212; refried Stalinist claptrap is especially effective if you use phrases like &#8216;the Western pharisees&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35135</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 09:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys, some of the comments above are on the borderline of ridiculous. Anyone with an open mind and willingness to understand the other side&#039;s viewpoints could take a look at http://www.okupatsioon.ee/english/index.htm, choose &quot;Films&quot; on the left menu. It offers an overview of the fate of Estonia from 1939 to 1991.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys, some of the comments above are on the borderline of ridiculous. Anyone with an open mind and willingness to understand the other side&#8217;s viewpoints could take a look at <a href="http://www.okupatsioon.ee/english/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.okupatsioon.ee/english/index.htm</a>, choose &#8220;Films&#8221; on the left menu. It offers an overview of the fate of Estonia from 1939 to 1991.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35134</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 09:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, I sympathize with much of what you said.  However, successfully implemented Eng. language media/PR efforts can help make a difference.  Whether that&#039;s being done is a matter that has been second guessed elsewhere by others including myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, I sympathize with much of what you said.  However, successfully implemented Eng. language media/PR efforts can help make a difference.  Whether that&#8217;s being done is a matter that has been second guessed elsewhere by others including myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35131</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 09:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a silly post.
I hope that Russia has finally got fed up of trying to win the PR war in the Western press, and will pursue its views more forcefully from now on. Trying to win the PR war is useless. No matter what Russia does, it will always be the villain. So the hell with it. Russia must press its interests regardless of the howls of &#039;righteous outrage&#039; from the Western pharisees.
Today the Estonian president asked Russia to &#039;act civilized&#039;. This coming from a government of grave diggers. Who have instituted an apartheid regime that denies the basic rigt of citinzenship to a large segment of the country&#039;s population. A &#039;democratic&#039; government that went against the opinions of the majority of the country&#039;s population to pursue this outrageous, extremist action.
Some posters (incredibly) are even trying to blame Russia for the riots in Estonia itself. Unbelievable. Look into the fascist policies of the Estonian regime to find the sources of discontent. The removal of the Bronze soldier was simply the last straw. It is a shame and a black eye on the EU and NATO to have a neo-Nazi country among its members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a silly post.<br />
I hope that Russia has finally got fed up of trying to win the PR war in the Western press, and will pursue its views more forcefully from now on. Trying to win the PR war is useless. No matter what Russia does, it will always be the villain. So the hell with it. Russia must press its interests regardless of the howls of &#8216;righteous outrage&#8217; from the Western pharisees.<br />
Today the Estonian president asked Russia to &#8216;act civilized&#8217;. This coming from a government of grave diggers. Who have instituted an apartheid regime that denies the basic rigt of citinzenship to a large segment of the country&#8217;s population. A &#8216;democratic&#8217; government that went against the opinions of the majority of the country&#8217;s population to pursue this outrageous, extremist action.<br />
Some posters (incredibly) are even trying to blame Russia for the riots in Estonia itself. Unbelievable. Look into the fascist policies of the Estonian regime to find the sources of discontent. The removal of the Bronze soldier was simply the last straw. It is a shame and a black eye on the EU and NATO to have a neo-Nazi country among its members.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35128</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings back and I personally appreciate your Eng. language effort and stated views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings back and I personally appreciate your Eng. language effort and stated views.</p>
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		<title>By: One Comment</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First i want to say that statue was and is holy place for Russian speaking Estonians and it remind horror for native Estonian peaple. 

For example My grandfather fight against Nazi Germany in WW II as red army soldier and my grand - grandparents was killed by red army soldiers as civilians.

It is history and all we have to accept it without anger.

One of the main reason why that statue was replaced connected with the fact that during last 2 years (not before) time to time tere was some conflicts between small group of people. Between so called russian extreme group and estonian extreame group. (Sorry my languiage skill). That mean territory of that statue in center of Tallinn was secure any more and peace of grave was desecrated.

By the way: Russia send 30 % of oil via Estonia to west so i believe quite soon trains start mooving again ;)

Greeting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First i want to say that statue was and is holy place for Russian speaking Estonians and it remind horror for native Estonian peaple. </p>
<p>For example My grandfather fight against Nazi Germany in WW II as red army soldier and my grand &#8211; grandparents was killed by red army soldiers as civilians.</p>
<p>It is history and all we have to accept it without anger.</p>
<p>One of the main reason why that statue was replaced connected with the fact that during last 2 years (not before) time to time tere was some conflicts between small group of people. Between so called russian extreme group and estonian extreame group. (Sorry my languiage skill). That mean territory of that statue in center of Tallinn was secure any more and peace of grave was desecrated.</p>
<p>By the way: Russia send 30 % of oil via Estonia to west so i believe quite soon trains start mooving again <img src='http://www.siberianlight.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Greeting!</p>
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		<title>By: Russophile.com</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35125</link>
		<dc:creator>Russophile.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 05:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.russophile.com/russia_blog/3189-after_estonian_monument_fiasco_poland_prepares_remove_soviet_monuments.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poland is going to be the next pace to remove Soviet monuments&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like <a href="http://www.russophile.com/russia_blog/3189-after_estonian_monument_fiasco_poland_prepares_remove_soviet_monuments.html" rel="nofollow">Poland is going to be the next pace to remove Soviet monuments</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35123</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Estonians as well.  Doh!

The riots in Estonia aren&#039;t the fault of Russia.  Offhand, I&#039;m not aware of Estonian diplomats being abused in Russia.  I&#039;ve been away from the news a bit.  If this happened, then it&#039;s a blemish on Russia.

Governments of nations have certain rights.  However, when they initiate provocatively stupid policies, they shouldn&#039;t be left off the hook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Estonians as well.  Doh!</p>
<p>The riots in Estonia aren&#8217;t the fault of Russia.  Offhand, I&#8217;m not aware of Estonian diplomats being abused in Russia.  I&#8217;ve been away from the news a bit.  If this happened, then it&#8217;s a blemish on Russia.</p>
<p>Governments of nations have certain rights.  However, when they initiate provocatively stupid policies, they shouldn&#8217;t be left off the hook.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.siberianlight.net/russia-stops-oil-exports-to-estonia/#comment-35121</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 01:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ofcourse the dumbest thing is that the oil transit business in Estonia is all owned by Russians, so Russia is simply hurting their compatriots in stopping rail transport to Estonia. Doh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ofcourse the dumbest thing is that the oil transit business in Estonia is all owned by Russians, so Russia is simply hurting their compatriots in stopping rail transport to Estonia. Doh!</p>
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